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My Goals

Discussion in 'Community News and Announcements' started by Finrod_Amandil, Sep 14, 2015.

  1. Finrod_Amandil

    Finrod_Amandil Head Designer
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    Every Vala/Head before me had some ideals, but I now want to formulate a few points that seem important to me and are things I feel we can still work and improve on. Please also note that I by no means want to achieve all of these goals right away in a perfect manner, but just have them as direction towards we will bring this project.
    These goals have been presented to the staff team and have been accepted without opposing opinions that were voiced. Thus these goals shall also apply on all members I am supposed to lead, namely the Artists and Designers, but also all other members of this community are welcome to move the project towards these goals as much as they can.

    1. Community
      Our goal is not to recreate Middle-Earth. Our goal is to recreate Middle-Earth together.

      I am aware we officially proclaimed that the main goal of this server is to recreate Middle-Earth over things as role-playing and survival that much rather oppose that goal. But I think we have to rethink this again and lay more focus on less efficient but more fun and community-stimulating techniques. In the recent past the community part grew less and less important and with old members retiring and leaving vital parts of the community were gone. The topic is one that is also being worked on by the Guides, while they may focus on things as events and advertising, as Designers we can work on bringing more community action into the building process. This may be with more classic jobs as we do them already frequently, build days, maybe some more nostalgic jobs, however with the common knowledge about WE and Voxel these jobs will stay nostalgic and won't be able to be grown into normal jobs anymore.
      Additionally to that there are other possibilities to involve community better, two things I can think of so far are scheduled jobs (glaciers, roads, swamps and similar) that instead of spontanously doing them get postponed to either a generic "job day" (e.g. saturday evening) or that they get announced a few days in advance on the forums. Another idea is on-site plotbuilds. For that we'd need a plugin that would be a kind of enhanced TB plugin, which allows staff to create e.g. small plots inside a WIP city in which then anyone can build a house (or whatever the project is about). That would be a replacement of the Freebuilds we made so far, in my opinion being able to build on site would make a huge difference against having to build in a plotgrid, additionally we would not need to move builds anymore. The detailed specifications of that plugin have been worked out and have been presented to the Staff team. Now I have presented the idea to the developers to clarify both the technical and effort-wise feasability.

    2. Lore
      Creativity can lead us anywhere, but we have to make sure that we all end up at the same place.

      One of the things that were important to Credoo was to ensure people can be as creative as possible and I do support that too. I am completely aware of that not everyone can be as fascinated and dedicated to the lore as e.g. I am, and also it's completely fine that not everyone knows everything, although it seems to be a common misconception, not even I do know everything, and usually when you ask me about something I have to look it up aswell!
      What I'd like to request from every project leader are two things: First off, take enough time to research about the lore, know what facts are given aswell as in which things no lore is available. Be more aware of where you can go nuts with your ideas without causing any conflicts, and where you need to use your creativity to recreate Tolkien's ideas as good as possible.
      Second thing is maintaining the forum posts. This includes mainly two things which also I myself have to get used to again: 1. Maintain the main post and add changes if changes in plans are made. 2. Document the progress, make a post if a village/hall/part is done, make one if an external staff claims a new village/.., make a post if you plan on adding something else or change something, so other staffs can have a look at it and voice concerns or other ideas before the construction starts.

    3. Realism
      In a fantasy world the inner consistency of reality is hard to achieve, but it is needed to make the world credible.

      This concern does apply to both terrain and villages/cities, however for the latter the amount of realism we do put into the construction is already very good and the only thing to do there is to preserve and again excel the qualities we have achieved so far. Terrain is a bit a more nasty topic though. I fully understand that for most of the staffs terrain is by far a not as exciting type of work as building structures is. But many yet need to learn that with making terrain it is just as important to get inspired by real world examples as we do it often already for the villages. When you edit a certain terrain area, search yourself an IRL region that matches your imagination of that terrain, that can also be from the movies. I also gladly offer some geography lessons either through TS or the forums, the only reason for that being that it makes creating realistic terrain so much easier.
    Please feel free to leave your comment on these goals, discussion is always welcome!
     
  2. Beathaven

    Beathaven Yellow flower puncher
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    Relationship goals ♥️
     
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  3. gigo09

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    Woo! Finally community focus! people are slowly dying over here
     
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    I'm very close to being a regular once more and perhaps even eventually moving up from my over a year long greyness. That is totally because of my lack of ambition and yada yada. Reading this has even more so encouraged me to get right back into things and do something worthwhile.
     
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    Welcome to the over 1 year grey club
     
  6. Portalrules333

    Portalrules333 Yellow flower puncher

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    So...does this mean that the solar panels on the roof of the Citadel have gotta go...
     
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  7. Finrod_Amandil

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    Yeah we will have to replace them with a nuclear power plant I guess.
     
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  8. Ardelenia

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    I love all of these, especially #3.
    My one comment is that, although I agree that we should have more rp/survival/etc opportunities, I think our main advertising and descriptions should still just say build server. Hopefully that will save a few of the people who want survival from joining, instead of coming on and quitting immediately.
     
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  9. Finrod_Amandil

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    The sad story is, and that is what I want to change asap, that I see a lot of motivated players join our build server and want to build something, and then they have to realize that they cannot and then quit immidiately again.
     
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    Yes
     
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  11. Tryfor34

    Tryfor34 Yellow flower puncher
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    @Finrod_Amandil I like to read between the lines when reading stuff like this and heres my TDLR. PLAYER HOUSING! I know you didn't say it directly, but I know we have a close bond and thats what you really meant. Also I will gladly assist in the recreation of the Bree slums (Fixed... idk if for better or worse), thank you I accept. Also I may have missed the part about an Honored rank? Can you revise and proof read. Cuz GREY NAMES SUCK!!! You killed my pappy.

    I enjoyed it and as an old fart let me know where I can help or provide insight. I'm soft spoken so I wont tell you what I'm thinking unless asked.

    Realistically, I would like to see the server adopt some of the older methods for cities and jobs. I understood why it fell from grace, because not every player is as skilled as the rest. But I would like to see what can come out of a MCME where all players contributed to builds and they actually built onsite. I always tried to do projects in that manner so it would include anyone who wanted to participate. Leading jobs I would aim to empower the community more then just a few individuals. So do your best :D I would like to see this come into play more then in the past years.

    Remember finny, Rome wasn't built in a day... but this isn't Rome. I expect these changes now!
     
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  12. Finrod_Amandil

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    On one thing, my part is done, so now please don't rush or disturb our devs in being awesome ;)
     
  13. Tryfor34

    Tryfor34 Yellow flower puncher
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    Fin I'm sorry, I don't negotiate with terrorists.
     
  14. Finrod_Amandil

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    This a strict Dictatorship, I do not negotiate, not at all.
     
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    All Hail Emperor Finrod!!!
     
  16. Portalrules333

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    I'll build the shrines, you can take care of the propaganda.
     
  17. Tryfor34

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    Thats fine, I am Tryfor, I do not listen, not at all.
     
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  18. blocks119

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    awesome the comunity is beast!
    and i like the onsite plotbuild idea

    but i just have 1 question

    is there anywhere i can build a shipwreck?
     
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  19. Portalrules333

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    Well, if you want to SEE one do /warp shipwreck, on the main map.
     
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