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Tom Bombadil

Discussion in 'Tavern Talk' started by nevik45, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. nevik45

    nevik45 Aspiring Commoner

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    Hi! This thread is slightly self-explanatory. Discuss who you think Tom Bombadil is. Don't have arguments. Debating, yes, but no angry arguments.
    Personally, I think Tom couldn't be Eru. In the Lord of the Rings, it says that he couldn't withstand all of Sauron's power (who, when you think about it, if Tom was Eru, would be his son). I think he's some very old spirit, who has enough power to maintain his land. But, that's just my opinion.
     
  2. Malkizid

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    I don't need to say a word, people know my stance on Bombadil discussions. :p
     
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    I personally, like lots of people, think that he is Aule.
     
  5. spike010

    spike010 Yellow flower puncher

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    I think that he is a Maia, more powerful than Sauron. Possibly one of Yavanna.
     
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    Tom Bombadil is actually Gloin, think about it. You've never seen the both of them in the same room..
     
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    I know this is off-topic but where did this gif originate
     
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    Ancient Aliens, the best history channel show EVER
     
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    I think he's just a forest spirit
     
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    Well he's pretty obviously supposed to represent nature gods (specifically celtic, i've heard), and I'm fine with that. But if we want an in-lore explanation, I like to think of him as the first experiment with life made by illuvatar, after the ainur. After all, he's oldest.
    Also, not that I'm saying this thread should be deleted, but we've discussed this rather many times on the forums.
     
  12. spike010

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    He wore the Ring and was not affected, nor did he turn invisible. Therefore, he has much power. Probably form the Undying Lands
     
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    He is the First and he will be the Last.
     
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    I think he's Father Time. :)

    Found that here:
    http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Theories_about_Tom_Bombadil
     
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    I quit reading on the first paragraph when it said that bombadil wasn't very much liked. I like tom enough for about fifty people.
    Correction: I read further, and probably will later. However, this guy is taking things too far. He's acting like he knows who tom is, and no one does. I doubt Tolkien did. He's saying that his whole goal is to defeat sauron, and he called Tom's land more dangerous than Mordor. Like, woah. I mean, I think if Tom wanted to defeat Sauron, he wouldn't send four hobbits to do it. I don't care how smart he is, no one would make a bet like that unless they were incredibly desperate. My new decision is that that guy is just...I don't know. He's making too many assumptions and acting like they're true.
    I just finished. He thinks he knows that Tom is evil, and ruled Middle-Earth before Morgoth was there. He thinks he's bound to his land by the Valar, but nothing in the book says that. So...I think this guy assumes too much.

    The Lord of the Rings specifically states that he's less powerful than Sauron.
     
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  17. nevik45

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    Tom is less powerful than SAuron, LOTR specifically states it.
     
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    Goldberry knows who he is. =p
     
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    He could still be a Maia
     
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    I don't think he's a maia because ring would have power as on Gandalf, Saroumane or Sauron for example.