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Why the Whitelist has been removed?

Discussion in 'Discussions' started by Tyranystrasz, May 18, 2014.

  1. Tyranystrasz

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    I see a players who never read te forum, they didn't apply and they spam on chat like a normal Minecraft Server. Maybe with the Whitelist the server is a little more protected by griefers, toxic players etc.
     
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    We have created a temporary new player world, it is still in development however, but the questions required for new players to continue on the server require them to read items from the forums.

    Personally, i don't see griefers and spammers being any different from them previously just white-listing to do so.
     
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  3. _Luk

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    Aka new playerworld
    The funny thing is that still players who dont know anything about the roles can walking around cause they simply /call them out or /warp so they didnt really have to do this. If fix this all is ok i think.
     
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    As stated before it is not yet implemented. Q would have to change some stuff around before it is.

    In regards to removing the whitelist. Since the whitelist has been removed I see at least 10 new people jioning the server every night. Something that definitely wasn't true before. Obnoxious people can easily be removed by bounders, and griefing is very hard to do on main.
     
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  5. Dallen

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    This is a more effective way of making sure new players are qualified, any bugs with plugins I can fix really easily.
     
  6. Ardelenia

    Ardelenia Yellow flower puncher

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    well, as idwarf said to me, if they want to come on just to troll they might not spend the time looking at the stuff and doing the whitelist app
     
  7. q220

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    First reason was because megga didn't want me to use the code, and doing a complete rewrite for a whitelist application platform would take weeks, and thus nobody new would be allowed in during this process anyway. Putting the whitelist offline was the easiest temporary solution, while we can work on something else that will act as a whitelist.
     
  8. Tyranystrasz

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    Thanks for the answer q220!
     
  9. Tryfor34

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    Q, we could re implement the old google docs whitelisting process. I don't recall it exactly but I think that's how it was done before. Tho I don't really see an issue ATM with the open list. I haven't seen an abundance of trolls or toxic players I think the officers are doing a good job taking them out before any issues occur
     
  10. Mnemon

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    It seems to me that an 'ingame whitelist' is an interesting and novel way to go.

    I imagine that it would be relatively trivial to create a new player world (sounds like we are doing that already) in which people who join for the first time are placed. They could be given a special rank with even fewer perms than thralls (i.e. no /warp, or /call, etc...) until they answer a series of questions (command blocks could be used...) based on information about LOTR and MCME (all of which can be easily found on TolkeinGateway or our forums). Once questions are properly answered, they could be auto-promoted to Thrall and warped to Bagend.

    Just a thought.
     
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  11. Tyranystrasz

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    Perfect idea, the problem about some new players is about they just know the domain but they don't know anything about how mcme works.
     
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    Something like this has already been made. Q just needs to hook things up.
    It doesn't test lore knowledge though. I don't know about you guys, but at least I think that the degree to which one knows the lore is completely irrelevent when it comes to joining the server.
     
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    I think that we should use the moria door question, it is simple but complex enough that you need to have read/seen lotr
     
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    Another reason that the whitelist was removed was because at the time of meggas leave, we were working on redoing the question system anyways.

    The former whitelist process was not only easy to google or simply check the fb page, but also just because you passed the whitelist did not mean you really had read the rules or new players guide. This rendered the whitelist as just a minor hoop to jump through in order to go on. We are still working on a new system that will better integrate new players.

    Until then, we have plenty of rangers and blunders online to both help and monitor player behavior so I would not worry too much. We may get a handful more trolls but hey, at least they are pretty funny.
     
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    Dat blunder doe.
     
  16. Fireinferno13

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    Shhh, I wrote this in class, you get the idea
     
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    return (fine, repurpose) of the nomad?
     
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