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Do we have plain glass? The kind without frames would be best for a lense, since it works best when made in one piece.Mirrors sound like a plausible idea, after all there is a texture Despot deemed a "Mirror Block". What would you make lenses out of? Just plain glass?
As Mandos already did in the Ballroom of the Summer Event theatre, ice looks pretty good for both bigger mirrors and glass thingsDo we have plain glass? The kind without frames would be best for a lense, since it works best when made in one piece.
If we'd go with my glass orb it really doesn't matter though - a polished ball of metal, an array of crystals or even a disco ball would do the job just as well as any kind of (clear) glass...
Awesome find; however is there a clear reference given that this quote applies for Moria and not for e.g. Erebor (It could still be relevant of course, but Im curious)The whole discussion about food is moot, given this quote from The Peoples of Middle-earth:
"Thus there grew up in those regions the economy, later characteristic of the dealings of Dwarves and Men (including Hobbits): Men became the chief providers of food, as herdsmen, shepherds, and land- tillers, which the Dwarves exchanged for work as builders, roadmakers, miners, and the makers of things of craft, from useful tools to weapons and arms and many other things of great cost and skill."
In essence, the food eaten in Moria all came from the rich farmlands in the Vales of Anduin - there's simply no way you could support a population the size of Moria's without extensive farmlands.
Awesome find; however is there a clear reference given that this quote applies for Moria and not for e.g. Erebor (It could still be relevant of course, but Im curious)
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And it's a good thing too.....I would've found extensive farmlands just outside Moria or, god forbid, INSIDE Moria to be a wee bit strange.Fornad just single handedly rekt this weird discussion. +1000 for you sir *tips fedora*
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I would imagine that some orcs would have the job of leaving Moria for awhile to pillage villages and steal food from farms. Also, some of their diet could possibly consist of dead orc...but that's just speculation.I would still like to know how the orcs get food? Although it is clear now that they wouldnt have any large scale farming built off of dwarven ruins, like my previous suggestion.
It would still be cool to have "repurposed" or taken-over workshops etc.
Clothing should be done by the dwarven "Ladies" at home, like every medieval society, clothing industry means that they actually had steam power, automatic spinning wheel etc, and tons of coal for make that industry works (steam power uses quite a lot of coal for work, just think about the lungs cancer increased by over 2000% in 150 years in the UK), and the CO2, CO generated by the combustion of fossil fuels in a city built in mountain, will probably wipe them all, since even a dwarven areation system (that doesn't have any type of fan) can't hold a mass production of CO2 already generated by the people, forging and melting, the lighting system (probably that counts thousands of braziers), all the fire in the city for cook and warm the living quarters. And most of all all this combustion you need a lot of Oxygen.
One of the things that I found unrealistic after exploring Old Moria was: where did all the food for the dwarrows (dwarves) come from? Sure some would have been imported through the West Gate, but there were hundreds of years before they built that and it would also be hugely impractical to ship it all so far. There are no major settlements near the East Gate to import food from, and no Dwarven farming/ agricultural settlements aboveground nearby. With this in mind, I present the Dwarven Sustenance Production plan:
Channels: As said somwhere earlier: The main problem there is how a useable amount of water for channels gets to the higher areas; only from melting snow (which only occurs in summer) and occasional rain you definitely don't get enough water to make channels. This means you would need some kind of pump to get the water maybe from the Silverlode up there. That would make this kind of transportation very arduous to maintain and other ways (carts or animals) would be easier. In areas that are below the ground level it would be possible though.-snip-
The thing is that caves are always around 60 or 65 degrees fahrenheit, regardless of whether it's winter or summer. In real life, people use underground temperature to heat and cool their house (geothermal power). Besides this, the dwarves would probably have adapted to enjoy this temperature (if they didn't in the first place) because they have lived underground for ages.Regarding the underground river thing. there are some really big undergound rivers and they go very deep aswell but they are very hard to used at lower depth because most of the time they are under great pressure but it would make sense to put the forge and foundry levels in the lower levels of the cities (because they vaporize water with the cooling) and maybe the dwarves had some kind of big "steam valve" where they vaporized most of the water using natural heat from the earth and sending the steam throught a long chimney like structure which they then in turn used to warm the living area of the city. so channels are an option altough it would take a lot of work making all of this.
In the Middle Ages, meat was extremely expensive; it was so expensive that only the nobility could afford it. Therefore, I don't think it would be logical to raise pigs as the main source of food. In fact, since Gimli must have been some type of nobility (he was a direct descendant of Durin) he probably ate meat all the time. He may have even been showing off his status to the rest of the Fellowship by talking about meat.I have seen some people and lotr games (mostly the total war mod) say that the dwarves breed pigs because they both solve most of the waste problem with underground cities, don't really care about lack of sunlight and don't take a lot of space. Also explains why Gimli is always talking about the roasted pork legs.
In the Middle Ages, meat was extremely expensive; it was so expensive that only the nobility could afford it. Therefore, I don't think it would be logical to raise pigs as the main source of food. In fact, since Gimli must have been some type of nobility (he was a direct descendant of Durin) he probably ate meat all the time. He may have even been showing off his status to the rest of the Fellowship by talking about meat.
Sorry if this post sounds unfriendly in any way; it wasn't intended to be. When I was new on this server, I often didn't mention ideas because I didn't like having them rejected. The fact is, we really want to have new ideas, and rejection of some of the ideas is really just part of the discussion
By the way, welcome to MCME!
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